Well amid the estimates of 20,000 bikes, I didn't see you fogrocker. I went to the Combat Veterans booth and Gascan had taken off to ride around with his dog, so I missed him. There were so many people walking around, I only saw Fritznatz and that's because I phoned him once I got there to see where to meet. Magister and debsmiling were great company all day, both jokesters so we kept the laughing up. If I ever go again, I'm going to be up there by 10am and out of there by noon... screw this riding in first or second gear. Seems like we spent a lot of time doing that, even on I-5. Finally got home around 7pm.